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Quatermass

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Okay, so I recently capped off a book-reading blog on another BBS at 100 books with The Stand by Stephen King. But while I am sick and tired of searching for new books to read, I have decided on a new thing to do: a Discworld marathon.

The rules are as follows:

*I must read and finish, in publication order, one Discworld novel every week at a bare minimum.

*After every one, I will have to post a review.

*Alternative versions using the same text are permitted (ie, the illustrated version of The Wee Free Men), but graphic novel versions or plays or screenplays are not.

*It must be in publication order/story order. Young adult Discworld books must be read at the time they were published.

Whaddya reckon? Should I bother?
 

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Reading through a series in chronological order is always a good idea. I've done it myself with DW books as well as Bernard Cornwell ones.

It's an excellent way to see, not only character development, but the development of the writer as well.

Just make sure you end up enjoying the experience and not feeling it to be a 'task'. There were times on my marathon read throughs that I wished I'd never started. :rolleyes:
 

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Tonyblack said:
Reading through a series in chronological order is always a good idea. I've done it myself with DW books as well as Bernard Cornwell ones.

It's an excellent way to see, not only character development, but the development of the writer as well.

Just make sure you end up enjoying the experience and not feeling it to be a 'task'. There were times on my marathon read throughs that I wished I'd never started. :rolleyes:
Hopefully, I will.

deldaisy said:
You DO like to put pressure on yourself huh Q? When you SHOULD be destressing.....

Mate... just read them because they are a good read.... enjoy.
I need something to have some sort of intellectual challenge. I can enjoy it as well. :)
 

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Quatermass said:
I need something to have some sort of intellectual challenge. I can enjoy it as well. :)
Didn't you say you were thinking about doing a PhD? I hear they're easy :p

You might find you don't have as much time for reading and writing though. Unless you're doing a PhD in literature.
 

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poohcarrot said:
I think it's a very good idea because;

a) It'll keep you out of mischief. :laugh:
b) We can all disagree and argue with you about your ratings, and say you're talking pants! :twisted:
Better to talk pants than talk s**t. :p

My general rating means that 7.5/10 is an average book. Not an average Discworld book, just an average book. Not bad, but not excelling. I gave Unseen Academicals 8.5, and I Shall Wear Midnight 10.

Dotsie said:
Quatermass said:
I need something to have some sort of intellectual challenge. I can enjoy it as well. :)
Didn't you say you were thinking about doing a PhD? I hear they're easy :p

You might find you don't have as much time for reading and writing though. Unless you're doing a PhD in literature.
I'm applying for a PhD scholarship soon, and if I have to give this up in favour of a PhD or work, then I'll do so. But there's not much work around ATM that I can commit to, and I haven't got a PhD subject in mind, not quite, anyway.

Jan Van Quirm said:
Very OCD but rewarding too - go for it :laugh:
Will do. I read the first little bit of The Colour of Magic during Earth Hour. With a torch.
 
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Quatermass said:
My general rating means that 7.5/10 is an average book. Not an average Discworld book, just an average book. Not bad, but not excelling. I gave Unseen Academicals 8.5
Boo!
 

Quatermass

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Quatermass said:
My general rating means that 7.5/10 is an average book. Not an average Discworld book, just an average book. Not bad, but not excelling. I gave Unseen Academicals 8.5
Boo!
8.5/10 means 'very good'. 9 means excellent, and 10 means perfect.

Anyway, why do I have to justify my opinion to you? :p
 

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Quatermass said:
Anyway, why do I have to justify my opinion to you? :p
Um...You don't. However, as you have decided to give us your opinion without being asked, we therefore have every right to criticise your opinion by stating our opinion. :rolleyes:

All Lilmaibe was doing was stating her opinion. :laugh:

My opinion.
Pyramids 10
Monstrous Regiment 6
Night Watch 8
Thud! 8
Making Money 6 :p
 

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poohcarrot said:
Quatermass said:
Anyway, why do I have to justify my opinion to you? :p
Um...You don't. However, as you have decided to give us your opinion without being asked, we therefore have every right to criticise your opinion by stating our opinion. :rolleyes:

All Lilmaibe was doing was stating her opinion. :laugh:
Excuse me, but she shot down my opinion of Unseen Academicals without giving me any justification. I don't call 'boo!' a compelling argument against my opinion, to mangle the words of Dorfl.

Okay, technically, part of the point of doing reviews IS to justify my opinions, but they're not justifying the opinions to anyone except maybe myself. Or if they are justifications to others, it is a general justification. Ah, bugger, I'm contradicting myself. :|

Okay, I should have said that I do not have to justify myself to LilMaibe because her response was ad hoc, without any justification for her argument. And your arguments aren't much better. You want to comment on my reviews? Fine, but make it a little more substantial than booing my opinions.

The main point of the marathon is that it has been a while since I have read many Discworld books, and it'll certainly be the first time that I have actually read them in order. With the exception of Small Gods, they are written in chronological order, more or less...

poohcarrot said:
My opinion.
Pyramids 10
Monstrous Regiment 6
Night Watch 8
Thud! 8
Making Money 6 :p
I think you may have got everything right, except you got Pyramids and Making Money the wrong way around, more or less.
 

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Quatermass said:
Excuse me, but she shot down my opinion of Unseen Academicals without giving me any justification.

poohcarrot said:
My opinion.
Pyramids 10
Monstrous Regiment 6
Night Watch 8
Thud! 8
Making Money 6 :p
I think you may have got everything right, except you got Pyramids and Making Money the wrong way around, more or less.
Excuse me, but you just shot down my opinion of Pyramids without giving me any justification! :laugh: :laugh:
 

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poohcarrot said:
Quatermass said:
Excuse me, but she shot down my opinion of Unseen Academicals without giving me any justification.

poohcarrot said:
My opinion.
Pyramids 10
Monstrous Regiment 6
Night Watch 8
Thud! 8
Making Money 6 :p
I think you may have got everything right, except you got Pyramids and Making Money the wrong way around, more or less.
Excuse me, but you just shot down my opinion of Pyramids without giving me any justification! :laugh: :laugh:
It's only the seventh book. I'll get to it soon enough. Besides, you didn't give any justification for the opinion I shot down, whereas I will be for the others.

In fact, I will go and copy my reviews that I did elsewhere of Unseen Academicals and I Shall Wear Midnight. Those two will be omitted from this marathon for that reason. I will post them here, both to show what my reviews will be like, and to show my reasoning behind my giving them those scores.
 

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Okay, first, my review of Unseen Academicals...

REVIEW: Unseen Academicals by Terry Pratchett


I am, amongst other things, a Discworld fan. I enjoy Terry Pratchett's comical fantasy series, and now I have been buying the novels as they are released, starting from Making Money. But after ordering Unseen Academicals, I didn't get around to finishing it until now, possibly because the story wasn't as engaging as usual. This was something of a mistake. While not as good as recent Discworld books, once it gets going, Unseen Academicals is very good...

The wizards of Unseen University have a problem: if they do not play a game of football very soon, they will lose a bequest that funds their large and extremely vital meal budget. And no sensible wizard will stand for only three meals a day. While the wizards and Ankh-Morpork's ruler Lord Vetinari plan on civilising football (a tough task given the mob who don't want football to be civilised), Unseen University's staff are having dramas of their own. Trevor Likely, the son of a famous footballer, and Juliet, the good-natured, beautiful, but airheaded supporter of another team, find themselves, despite all odds, falling for each other, much to the chagrin of Juliet's friend and supporter, as well as extremely good cook, Glenda. And these three must work to unravel the mystery of Mr Nutt, a very erudite and good-natured goblin (or is he something worse?) whose past is about to come back to haunt him in a very big way.

Unseen Academicals takes quite a lot of time to gather momentum, especially when compared to my favourite Discworld novels, Going Postal and Making Money. Which is a pity, because once it gets going, it is like a bloody train, with very little way of stopping it. Seeing below-stairs life in Unseen University is, admittedly, interesting, given how little we know about who actually keeps the university going, although we have seen how the wizards interact. We even have some change, with some characters having moved on, albeit elsewhere in the Discworld.

The character of Juliet is irritating, although the fact that she is still good natured and sweet compared to similar 'dumb blonde' characters in previous Discworld novels redeems her somewhat. Glenda is more interesting, although at first too abrasive for my liking. Trevor Likely is funny in a cheeky Cockney lad kind of way, but it is Mr Nutt who is most interesting, especially given the revelations about his true heritage. Let us just say that it will turn most preconceptions about a certain fantastic race on its head. Characters from previous books like Lord Vetinari (who actually gets drunk, believe it or not, and the results, while what you'd expect from Vetinari, have to be seen to be believed), Archchancellor Ridcully, and Ponder Stibbons are on fine form. So is Rincewind, although he is mostly in the background.

I have to say, though, that the two main supernatural (or at least the two new main supernatural) elements of the story fall down flat. It will be hard to speak of them without uttering spoilers, but I think Pratchett could have cut them out, and the story might have been no worse, maybe even better for it. The same could be said about the fashion show subplot, but it is not so much superficial as much as irritating, although there is a very satisfying resolution.

While slow to begin and having a few hiccups along the way, Unseen Academicals is still a good example of Terry Pratchett's work. This book goes to show that his troubles in real life have not affected his gift for telling a good story.


8.5/10

First words: It was midnight in Ankh-Morpork's Royal Art Museum.

Last words: It is now!
 

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And now, I Shall Wear Midnight...

REVIEW: I Shall Wear Midnight by Terry Pratchett

While I enjoy the Discworld novels, I do have particular favourites in terms of the various story arcs. I like the stories that involve Death and his granddaughter, Susan Sto Helit, the Wizards of Unseen University, Rincewind, and the con artist Moist Von Lipwig. But my least favourite were the Witches stories. The first set focus on the 'coven' in Lancre, with Granny Weatherwax, Nanny Ogg, and Magrat Garlick, later to be replaced (though not forgotten) by Agnes Nitt. The second, most recent set, is about young witch Tiffany Aching, which, while enjoyable, are still not as enjoyable as other Discworld novels. But then, the fourth, and possibly final Tiffany Aching story, I Shall Wear Midnight, came along. And not only is it the best Aching story of all, but one of the best of the series, and that is saying something.

Tiffany Aching is the local witch of the Chalk, a small country area on the Sto Plains, and having finished her schooling in witchcraft, she is now responsible for looking after the people of the Chalk. But for a fifteen-year old witch, who is supposed to use more common sense and know-how than magic, it is becoming tiring. And it is about to become a whole lot worse, for an evil entity is turning the people of the Discworld against witches, making them think that witches are not to be trusted, that they should be exterminated. With friends turning into enemies, and her allies, the rowdy Nac Mac Feegle, not helping matters, Tiffany has to find out how she is going to beat the might of the Cunning Man, before he wreaks havoc on the Discworld.

Although this is a Discworld book meant for teenagers, it should be noted that very early on, we are made to understand that this is a dark book. How dark? Well, the first few chapters involves a 13-year old girl miscarrying after being beaten by her father, who is later in danger of being lynched, and tries to hang himself. And then, Tiffany is subject to paranoia and suspicion for being a witch, all of which culminates in the horrific appearance of the Cunning Man, who is one of the Discworld's most frightening supernatural villains.

And yet, such is Pratchett's skill as a writer, even in what could very well be the end of his career given his Alzheimer's, that it is never questioned as to its value in the story. It is to show that Tiffany's life as a witch is not always a happy one, and life is not always as simple and clean as some would believe.

Fans of the Discworld series in general will be glad to note a few cameos from much-loved characters, but two in particular stand out. Wee Mad Arthur, supposed gnome member of the City Watch, is, of course, revealed to be a rather unconventional Nac Mac Feegle (think Pictish warriors a couple of inches tall and able to fight off a grown human), as some fans suspected, but an interesting cameo is that of Eskarina 'Esk' Smith, the female wizard unseen since the events of Equal Rites. And yes, she plays a vital role in the story.

Tiffany Aching also seems to have come into her own. While the events of this novel are, to a degree, her fault, unlike the last couple of books, it isn't due to any naivete or lack of knowledge. The only reason why the events are her fault is hinted to be an unforeseen result of the events of the previous Tiffany Aching novel, Wintersmith. Tiffany has always been a mature and thoughtful girl, occasional stuff-ups notwithstanding, but here, with few exceptions, she truly acts like an adult.

I'll be honest. I cannot find anything truly at fault with I Shall Wear Midnight, except, perhaps, the glossing over of the later fate of Mr Petty and his daughter, Amber, the aforementioned father and daughter, although this might have been due to my style of reading. While not as complex a story as your average Discworld novel, it is still an engaging one, and as I said, I cannot find any fault in it at all.

So, if you're a Discworld fan, or new to the series, get a copy. Read it. And bask in the light of damn good reading.


10/10

First words: Why was it, Tiffany Aching wondered, that people liked noise so much?

Last words: And Tiffany said, 'Listen'
 

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Q, would you really recommend I Shall Wear Midnight to a complete newcomer to Discworld? o_O I've read them in order so I find it hard to imagine starting at the end of what is and actual series. The Tiffany books are much more of a progression than just about any of the others.

Still, it was interesting to read your comments. :) Have you read these two books more than once? You might want to consider rereading them in the course of your marathon and redoing the reviews for these two in light of the sequential reading.

Just a thought. :laugh:
 

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Tonyblack said:
Q, would you really recommend I Shall Wear Midnight to a complete newcomer to Discworld? o_O I've read them in order so I find it hard to imagine starting at the end of what is and actual series. The Tiffany books are much more of a progression than just about any of the others.

Still, it was interesting to read your comments. :) Have you read these two books more than once? You might want to consider rereading them in the course of your marathon and redoing the reviews for these two in light of the sequential reading.

Just a thought. :laugh:
Maybe, because many of the books, continuity aside, can be picked up and read out of sequence. I'd certainly recommend a newcomer to the series to read Reaper Man...

I'll consider re-reading them (no, I have only read these two books once), but for the moment, they are disqualified.

The weekly time limit only qualifies once I start and finish The Colour of Magic. Sooo....yeah.
 

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