Disturbingly "DEATHLESS" deaths in later DW books

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raisindot

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After recently re-reading A Hatuful of Sky, it occurred to me that in many of Pterry's later books he began to incorporate far more "darker" and disturbing narratives of the death of innocent characters. In most of the earlier books, when a character dies, he (it's almost always a he) exists with a humorous scene with Death. Generally, the character deserves to die, with the occasional exception of likeable characters like Cuddy in Men at Arms.

Point is in the earlier books few of the actual deaths of characters have strongly emotional resonances. They're not all the "upsetting." Even in Jingo, where skirmishes between Ankh Morporkians and Klatchians result in the deaths of many AM soldiers, there's little emotional impact of these deaths. Indeed, we really don't see how the Klatchian War affected a DW character until The Truth, when we learn how the death of William De Worde's brother in the Klatchian war helped to shape his outlook.

But, I will argue Pterry begins to make death far more real in his later books. Even though Pterry doesn't shy away from the harrowing deaths of the coppers-turned-rebels in Night Watch, we already know their fates before the story began. And, technically, none of them are "innocent victims." Instead, I would peg the genuine beginning of this kind of "emotional death" to Thud! . In particular, the scene where an enraged Vimes berates the city dwarfs for not stopping the grags and one of them tells Vimes that his son was killed by the grags, is one of the most powerful in the book, and one of the best scenes of any DW book. When this is followed shortly afterward by the self-inflicted death of Helmclever in the prison cell, it's really a one-two narrative punch we haven't really seen that much of in past books.

From that point on, we begin to see at least one scene of "DEATH-less innocent deaths" in most of the books that follow. And most of these victims are female. In A Hatful of Sky, Tiffany (via the influence of the Hiver) kills one of the Miss Levels. In Snuff! the grotesque butchering of the innocent goblin girl (and, by the extension, the extermination via exportation of hundreds of other goblins) is the key motivator of Vimes' actions. In Raising Steam the brutal murder of the mixed human/dwarf couple by dwarven reactionaries becomes a rallying call for those opposing the deposing of the low king. In I Shall Wear Midnight[/i,] a pregnant teen girl suffers a miscarriage after nearly being beaten to death by her father and at least one witch--real or suspected--is killed by villagers. in The Shepherd's Crown, the Queen of the Elves is mercilessly murdered by a fellow elf.

What almost all of these death have in common is that (except for the deaths of Helmclever and the Elf Queen) they take place "off screen." They're anonymous, impersonal deaths, None of them get the "traveling along the desert" scene with DEATH. They're just dead. And nearly all are killed out of cruelty grounded in hatred, xenophobia and bigotry, whether inherent in the DNA of the killers (Snuff, Raising Steam), or caused by occult forces that liberate the destructive forces suppressed by characters (Hatful, ISWM).

The increasingly dark deaths that permeate many of the latter books point to how Pterry's narrative priorities changed late in life. His last books were far more serious explorations and condemnations of bigotry, xenophobia, "speciesm" and fear and the DEATH-less deaths resulting from the expression of these behaviors are far more emotional than the deaths of characters that came before them.
 

Tonyblack

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Some of the earlier deaths that I found disturbing, were the coachmen in Witches Abroad and old Mrs Easy and the baby in Feet of Clay. Terry always had the power to make you laugh one minute and then twist your emotions 180° in the next minute. But I agree that the books were getting darker towards the end. I Shall Wear Midnight had some very dark sections to it.
 

raisindot

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Tony, by "coachmen" in WA do you mean the two that were changed into bugs and "stepped on"? I found that disturbing, but mainly because of the cruely of the action--the coachmen themselves were "extras," never named. Still, quite disturbing.

You're also right about Mrs. Easy and the baby--that was very disturbing. And the scene near the end of TFE where Vimes is walking toward his confrontation with Wolfgang and sees a woman weeping over someone apparently mauled by the werewolf--but you're not sure whether that person died or not.

Yet, as disturbing as these scenes are, they're not central to the advancement or resolution of the plot the way the "off screen" deaths of the later books are.
 

=Tamar

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raisindot wrote: "In I Shall Wear Midnight[/i,] a pregnant teen girl is killed by her father"

No, she didn't die. She lost her pregnancy, but she lived.
 

raisindot

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=Tamar said:
raisindot wrote: "In I Shall Wear Midnight[/i,] a pregnant teen girl is killed by her father"

No, she didn't die. She lost her pregnancy, but she lived.
Yes, you're right of course. Corrected now in original post. But that whole subplot about the death of the baby and the father's cruelty were one of the most disturbing things in any DW novel.
 

Tonyblack

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Generally I think you are spot on, raisindot. The books did turn darker. It's something that I liked about the later books. When people say that Terry was a writer of hilarious fiction, I'd agree up to a point. The later books are much less funny and more heart rending. It's subtle to start with, unlike the transition from fantasy parody in the earlier books, to satire in some of the latest. Terry's books will be looked back on for the satire - for his ability to get under the skin of humanity and his masterful use of characters to get his point across. For example, Mark Reads is currently reading Feet of Clay. It's a very funny book, but it is dripping with satire. The golems clearly represent slavery and the suspicion bordering on hate against these people that are used as tools. The books continue to have this satire as the series progresses, but the humour becomes less apparent. Writers change their style - it's a natural process. Many writers get worse as they progress - but, in my opinion, Terry got better. Sure, his illness was showing in the last several books, but they were still a hell of a lot better than many writers' second or third books.

And yes, death without Death becomes more apparent. Those deaths are the more shocking for that. But they aren't written callously. Those deaths, of even minor characters, can be painful. Terry had the knack of writing characters that the reader could identify with, even if they only made a brief appearance. I recently reread The Truth and was amazed at how Terry managed to manipulate the reader to actually feeling sad for Mr Tulip, while providing a sort of poetic justice to the death of Mr Pin.

I have read too many books in recent years where the story is interesting and engaging, but the characters in that book are written so that the reader doesn't really care about what happens to them. There is no empathy for them. This is something that could never be levelled with Terry's writing, even to the very last book.
 

raisindot

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Tonyblack said:
And yes, death without Death becomes more apparent. Those deaths are the more shocking for that. But they aren't written callously. Those deaths, of even minor characters, can be painful.
I agree. The DEATH-less deaths of his last books are all the more shocking and emotionally jarring because the victims aren't given the DEATH send-off. Except for the killing of Miss Level and the Elf Queen, nearly all of these deaths happen outside the "real time" narrative. They are lonely deaths, which only accentuates the cruelty and loneliness of the acts. These acts truly do demonstrate Granny Weatherwax's admonition against people who "treat people like things."
 

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