pip said:
I agree that if any character was to get killed off Jayne would have been an enjoyable choice but too easy as well.
I know this will get me kicked but i never really liked Doctor Who from any era.
Never got into it.
Boot to the head. *whack*
pip said:
Blake 7 and Firefly are still too different for the kind of comparison you are making anyway.
Blake 7 did what first, Scifi
: or Dystopic future
: the whole reneagdes on the run thing
:
It did that sort of series where the main characters were not necessarily heroes, filled with moral ambiguity. I mean, Blake was a revolutionary at best, and he became more cynical and more willing to let the ends justify the means. Avon was an amoral computer hacker more than willing to go his own way (he's like Jayne, only with more brains and less muscles). Vila was a cowardly thief, Jenna a space pirate, Cally an alien terrorist, Zen an alien computer with a mind of its own, ORAC was a supercomputer with a bad attitude, Tarrant an arrogant little turd, Dayna a little too enthusiastic about weapons, and Soolin very mercenary. The most balanced of the cast was Gan, and not only was that only when his anti-murder chip wasn't on the fritz, but he got bumped off halfway through the second series.
This may sound nasty, but it made things interesting, with these guys less of a happy family and more of a dysfunctional group who found it hard to work together. Plus, they were all convicted criminals, to varying degrees of actual culpability.
Firefly is basically
Blake's 7 watered down and neutered. Very few of the crew are self-interested, despite Mal being a dick. There are more happy endings. At least
Blake's 7 is not afraid to make the characters lose.
Or cast non-glamourous looking males in the leads. Women were a different matter, but that was the 70s...
pip said:
Genres cross but your accusing Joss Whedon of cloning Blake 7 then contradicting this by stating Blake 7 did this and that unlike Firefly.
I didn't say that it was a perfect clone. As I said above, many of the things
Blake's 7 did differently were done right. One of them, however, was not production values. If
Blake's 7 had Firefly's production values...
Well, let's just say that this
trailer makes
Blake's 7 look good.
pip said:
Many films and tv of the 70's are Dystopic so how many was Blake 7 ripping themes from.
Logans Run etc etc etc ...............
Blake's 7 was conceived at about the same time as the original film of
Logan's Run, but Terry Nation (the creator of
Blake's 7, as well as the Daleks) had visited dystopian science fiction before. He created, probably well before its time, a fairly realistic post-apocalyptic drama called
Survivors, about the world after a superflu pandemic, years before
The Stand was published. And then you have similar worlds visited in Terry Nation's
Doctor Who stories The
Daleks, The Keys of Marinus, Genesis of the Daleks...
pip said:
I never liked the sort of criticism for films or books or tv based on statements along the lines of that was crap because this was better
Hey, I'm an opinionated little bugger, and I detest most American science fiction (with the exceptions of
Futurama, Dune, and the Vorkosiagn Saga). Unrepentantly opinionated and prejudiced. I don't mind you liking
Firefly and
Serenity. There is much to recommend the franchise. I just don't like it much myself, partly out of personal taste and partly because
Blake's 7 pretty much did it first.
But then again, well, I suppose if it comes down to opinions, this wee quote from
Blake's 7 about the matter is rather apposite:
Vila: I'm entitled to my opinion.
Avon: It is your assumption that we are all entitled to it as well that is irritating.
