Least favourite Discworld book
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that's one of the reasons i didn't care too much for MM, as it had been done before in GP. And Moist is -for me- kind of a one-shot character, what with all his "fly before you can walk"-attitude. i'm a little worried, having heard that there is a third moist book planned (raising taxes?), that it will be even more 'meh' to me.
my least fav was UA... and then I started working at a university. Made all the UU books take on a whole new light. Reread UA and enjoyed it a whole lot more. Also having the World Cup here improved my knowledge of the footie so that started making more sense.
I think that's the thing with these books, they talk to you differently at different points in your life.
I think that's the thing with these books, they talk to you differently at different points in your life.
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dennykay said:
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...dribbling candles, and probably giving their possibly-romantic-interest a nice coach ride
oh, and making the rulebook for football, since ponder couldn't.
...and i liked him.
i know exactly what you mean, i'm wondering myself as to what he was neccessary for, technically. but, to me, in a sense UA was about him, in part at least.
ah, here's an idea: he's good to break a tradition, namely the tradition that the first member of a new species starts in the watch.
and, as i said, he's somebody's romantic interest. i mean, that has to count for something, doesn't it?
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somebody could have made up the new rules: him.
another function he seems to have for me: that whole debate in the book about 'aquiring worth' and whether you have to become what you started out as (his race) is a recurring theme with pterry, i'd say.
sure, he's sung this theme before, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
ah, here's an idea: he's good to break a tradition, namely the tradition that the first member of a new species starts in the watch.
and, as i said, he's somebody's romantic interest. i mean, that has to count for something, doesn't it?
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somebody could have made up the new rules: him.
another function he seems to have for me: that whole debate in the book about 'aquiring worth' and whether you have to become what you started out as (his race) is a recurring theme with pterry, i'd say.
sure, he's sung this theme before, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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dennykay said:
i know exactly what you mean, i'm wondering myself as to what he was neccessary for, technically. but, to me, in a sense UA was about him, in part at least.
ah, here's an idea: he's good to break a tradition, namely the tradition that the first member of a new species starts in the watch.
and, as i said, he's somebody's romantic interest. i mean, that has to count for something, doesn't it?
ah, here's an idea: he's good to break a tradition, namely the tradition that the first member of a new species starts in the watch.
and, as i said, he's somebody's romantic interest. i mean, that has to count for something, doesn't it?
And that bothers me. Because that is something I expect to see in a bad fanfiction that tries too hard to mimic Pratchett's style. Not something written by himself, Alzheimer or not.
The existance of sad charcter just makes me sad
My least favourite book in the series has got to be Eric, with Pyramids lagging behind. Eric was just thin on the ground with a few good ideas, but otherwise crap. Pyramids had excellent concepts and a good beginning, but very poor execution for the rest of the book, in my opinion.
Note that these are just out of the books that I have re-read so far.
Note that these are just out of the books that I have re-read so far.
That might be why I liked UA more than others do, then.
I don't really like when people read a new Pratchett that they don't like and then use the "A" word. The implication is that he has written a book you don't like because he has Alzheimer's, which is obviously not the case - you just didnt like it. Lots of others did. A book review on this site has no room for Alzheimer's, at all.
I don't really like when people read a new Pratchett that they don't like and then use the "A" word. The implication is that he has written a book you don't like because he has Alzheimer's, which is obviously not the case - you just didnt like it. Lots of others did. A book review on this site has no room for Alzheimer's, at all.
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Honestly, even I used the word, what I meant was not that his recent books got not-as-good because of it, but two other things:
I sometimes feel people don't dare to say something negative cause of it and
Some people apparently think no one else may say something negative cause of it.
As mentioned, I don't like the book (UA) because it's boring, the new characters are shallow, useless, several events are just there to show how awesome the you-know-what ist and there are a many points o missed actual awesomeness.
Having a canonical Sue (and I never use this term if I don't mean it) just makes me sad.
What makes me angry about UA in particular is when I say I don't like it and why is when people go and say -you just don't get it, it's not about football, it's about that crabbucket thing (which has been done more subtle and better with 7+1 characters and more before /note) and aside from that he's having alzheimer, so you mustn't say something bad and STFU-
*sighs*
*walks off*
I sometimes feel people don't dare to say something negative cause of it and
Some people apparently think no one else may say something negative cause of it.
As mentioned, I don't like the book (UA) because it's boring, the new characters are shallow, useless, several events are just there to show how awesome the you-know-what ist and there are a many points o missed actual awesomeness.
Having a canonical Sue (and I never use this term if I don't mean it) just makes me sad.
What makes me angry about UA in particular is when I say I don't like it and why is when people go and say -you just don't get it, it's not about football, it's about that crabbucket thing (which has been done more subtle and better with 7+1 characters and more before /note) and aside from that he's having alzheimer, so you mustn't say something bad and STFU-
*sighs*
*walks off*
You can say you don't like his work, but to say you're not allowed to criticise the novel because he has Alzheimer's is very insulting. When has that ever been implied on here? He's not some old dodderer that we have to be nice to in case we upset him - allow him the respect of not liking his work. But you have commented often and vehemently on this particular novel - we know that you don't like it, you don't need to go on and on about Mary Sue. The book isn't a personal attack on you, you know.
I've made it no secret how much I dislike Making Money and I have to admit that the thought that Terry's illness may have been responsible for that did cross my mind. We know so little about how it is affecting his thought processes and I think it was natural for us to worry about it.
But then I read Nation and Thud! and I Shall Wear Midnight and even UA (which I enjoyed considerably more the second time I read it) and I'm now much more inclined to put MM down as just a book that didn't work for me. A couple of those books I just mentioned are among my favourites.
I don't think the alzheimer's is having a marked affect on Terry's thought processes - not if I judge it by the level of some of his recent work.
But then I read Nation and Thud! and I Shall Wear Midnight and even UA (which I enjoyed considerably more the second time I read it) and I'm now much more inclined to put MM down as just a book that didn't work for me. A couple of those books I just mentioned are among my favourites.
I don't think the alzheimer's is having a marked affect on Terry's thought processes - not if I judge it by the level of some of his recent work.
To be honest, as a recent fan of TP's books - and someone who is still working my way through them - I'm unaware exactly which books he wrote since his diagnosis so it hasn't crossed my mind much at all. I've only a vague idea about the chronology of the books and the years they were written since I didn't buy them when they were released.
If anything, the Moist books and certainly Thud! are amongst my favourites so far, far superior imvho to books like Reaper Man and Moving Pictures. Was Night Watch written when TP had alzheimers or was that a bit earlier? Whatever the case, that's possibly my favourite of his works and that's obviously a later book.
Just my 2p worth. I haven't read UA yet.
If anything, the Moist books and certainly Thud! are amongst my favourites so far, far superior imvho to books like Reaper Man and Moving Pictures. Was Night Watch written when TP had alzheimers or was that a bit earlier? Whatever the case, that's possibly my favourite of his works and that's obviously a later book.
Just my 2p worth. I haven't read UA yet.
