I thought the cook was a closet vampire, or that Pterry used him to suggest the suspicion of him being a vampire. He creates the same suspicion with Mr. Bent--doesn't wotzername wear a garlic necklace when she first visits his room? Indeed, if you really think about it,. the whole theme of things long buried and 'undead' emerging into the light runs through the book, from the long-buried golems to the long-dead necromancy professor and his knowledge of the ancient and largely forgotten Umnian civilization and language to the long-suppressed "truths" about Moist and Mr. Gent. And why does Vetinari want Moist to revamp the banking system? So he can get funding to uncover and develop the 'understructure' that was buried beneath Ankh Morpork's streets until the dwarves uncovered them--in a project Vetinari refers to as "the undertaking."
Making Money
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Might have been the german translation but I was under the impression Mr Bent was the only one who ever got suspected of being a vampire. Okay, perhaps the cook was fed up with mr bent constantly ordering garlic, but that's just speculation.
And wasn't the undertaking using the old channels/streets every assassin knew about, just clean them out? (see -men at arms-)
And wasn't the undertaking using the old channels/streets every assassin knew about, just clean them out? (see -men at arms-)
The Undertaking was using the dwarf mine from thud. the mine was spread throughout the city and the dwarves had even laid rails. but i think only Dr. Cruses knew about the Via Cloaca, Until Detritus and Cuddy fell into it. i haven't heard mention of it since though.
and yeah, Mr Bent was the only one who was mistaken for a vamp. gets in before dawn, leaves after dark, anal about numbers, tall, thin, lives at Mrs Cake's, etc etc.
So, you are complaining that it copies GP, but then complain that it doesn't?
Personally i think the base similarities was the whole point. Vetinari WANTED moist to do what he did in GP. he wanted the banking system to be redone, he wanted paper money like the Agetians, he even kept pushing moist toward it. talking about how they were so light, that they were a defacto currency. he mentions this both in GP and again at the begining of MM. there is an internal logic to it all.
Honestly though the similarities are superficial. they really aren't the same books.
and yeah, Mr Bent was the only one who was mistaken for a vamp. gets in before dawn, leaves after dark, anal about numbers, tall, thin, lives at Mrs Cake's, etc etc.
So, you are complaining that it copies GP, but then complain that it doesn't?
Personally i think the base similarities was the whole point. Vetinari WANTED moist to do what he did in GP. he wanted the banking system to be redone, he wanted paper money like the Agetians, he even kept pushing moist toward it. talking about how they were so light, that they were a defacto currency. he mentions this both in GP and again at the begining of MM. there is an internal logic to it all.
Honestly though the similarities are superficial. they really aren't the same books.
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Well, it's been a while since I had a chance to start reading thud (from the library and didn't manage to finish. same problem with snuff atm) since then I have not been able to get my hands on it and ordering books at the loval store is hell, especially when it comes to english ones.
The thing with the it copies GP/it doesn't copy GP is an odd one:
It uses the same arch-plot, base-conflict and plotmoves as GP while having a villain that isn't that much of a threat, or at least when compared to GP.
Think of some movie-sequels that basically recycle the plot of a succesful first movie, but all the great actors are gone and all of a sudden the problem the heroes facing should/could/would be solved within the first 10 minutes if the new characters would have half the skills of the original ones.
That is what MM feels like.
The thing with the it copies GP/it doesn't copy GP is an odd one:
It uses the same arch-plot, base-conflict and plotmoves as GP while having a villain that isn't that much of a threat, or at least when compared to GP.
Think of some movie-sequels that basically recycle the plot of a succesful first movie, but all the great actors are gone and all of a sudden the problem the heroes facing should/could/would be solved within the first 10 minutes if the new characters would have half the skills of the original ones.
That is what MM feels like.
