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Dotsie

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#21
I can tell that inferring insult is not the fault of the receiver. If you were pissing people off, would you not want to know why? I have also met and chatted at length with the man, and I don't think it's his intention to be offensive, but the fact is that he was! If you're not insulted, why do you give a crap if I am?
 

Catch-up

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Jul 26, 2008
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#22
I don't think anyone would doubt that he didn't mean to be offensive, just funny. However, turning around and dumping on Dotsie because she did find it offensive, with sound reasoning, is not called for. You can't dictate to someone what does or doesn't feel offensive to them, or disregard their feelings because you disagree in some way.
 

raisindot

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Oct 1, 2009
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#23
Er, back to the original topic...

Bouncy, as much as I love a lot of the 'stuff' (says the man who spent $80 US to get one of two Thud! sets in the U.S.)I do agree with you in some ways. As the concept owner, he deserves the right to commercially exploit DW however he wants to, and like others have said, we have the right not to buy into it. We all wish our art creators would be artistically pure, but when does that ever happen? It used to bug the snot of out of me when Charles Schulz would whore out Snoopy and Charlie Brown to shill everything from insurance to third-rate dessert cakes, but it was his right to do so.

You do know that an author has kind of jumped that commercial literary shark when you start seeing apostrophes being added, as in, "Terry Pratchett's Discworld" or "Frank Herbert's Dune" over the title of some lousy sequel or spin off created by someone else.
 

lawrenson

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Jul 30, 2008
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#24
Hi,

I agree with all the points above.

However, as I sit here looking at a large pile of Dodgers, all slightly different, I do wonder sometimes...

Cheers,
karen
 
Jul 27, 2008
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#25
lawrenson said:
Hi,

I agree with all the points above.

However, as I sit here looking at a large pile of Dodgers, all slightly different, I do wonder sometimes...

Cheers,
karen
Is that the Jammie Dogers, ;) or the books,W/stone slipcased one, the W/stone one with extra story, the signed one from PJSM Prints one and I think W S Smith had something extra with theirs, thats a lot if you bought them all and I see PJSM ARE OFFERING the slipcased one signed for £200 I suppose if you are a completist you buy it in which case youre paying £170 for a signature, that's a serious amout of money for just one book unless you're as they say minted. :mrgreen:
 
#26
raisindot said:
You do know that an author has kind of jumped that commercial literary shark when you start seeing apostrophes being added, as in, "Terry Pratchett's Discworld" or "Frank Herbert's Dune" over the title of some lousy sequel or spin off created by someone else.
So you mean all those playscripts that say "Terry Pratchett's <foo> adapted for the stage by Stephen Briggs" are indications of said shark being jumped?
 

raisindot

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Molokov said:
raisindot said:
You do know that an author has kind of jumped that commercial literary shark when you start seeing apostrophes being added, as in, "Terry Pratchett's Discworld" or "Frank Herbert's Dune" over the title of some lousy sequel or spin off created by someone else.
So you mean all those playscripts that say "Terry Pratchett's <foo> adapted for the stage by Stephen Briggs" are indications of said shark being jumped?
No, because in that situation Briggs is adapting an existing piece of Pterry's work for a different medium. Whereas, something with the header of "Terry Pratchett's Discworld" over a title such as "CMOT's Dibbler's Seven Habits of Barely Successful Businesspeople by Joe Smith and Mitt Twit" is what I'm talking out. The thing itself may be quite good, but Pterry may have nothing at all to do with the work itself other than whoring out the license.
 
#29
Ok, fair enough :)

I think the only 'unofficial' Pratchett-related thing I have is Lawrence Watt-Evans' "The Turtle Moves" which isn't very good. Glad I didn't buy it, I won it as part of the UU Challenge prize at DWCon 2010. Because of its poor quality, I've avoided the few other "unofficial" guides out there, because I didn't want to waste my money on them if they weren't going to be any good.
 

Selkie

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Jul 25, 2008
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#30
I think , on the whole, Terry has done a good job of maintaining the quality of the "extras", 70 different versions of Dodger aside (yes, I exaggerate).

I don't think he has sold out. Certainly, when you look at all the Harry Potter tat that's around, the Discworld stuff is exceptional.
 
Jul 27, 2008
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#32
raisindot said:
Molokov said:
raisindot said:
You do know that an author has kind of jumped that commercial literary shark when you start seeing apostrophes being added, as in, "Terry Pratchett's Discworld" or "Frank Herbert's Dune" over the title of some lousy sequel or spin off created by someone else.
So you mean all those playscripts that say "Terry Pratchett's <foo> adapted for the stage by Stephen Briggs" are indications of said shark being jumped?
No, because in that situation Briggs is adapting an existing piece of Pterry's work for a different medium. Whereas, something with the header of "Terry Pratchett's Discworld" over a title such as "CMOT's Dibbler's Seven Habits of Barely Successful Businesspeople by Joe Smith and Mitt Twit" is what I'm talking out. The thing itself may be quite good, but Pterry may have nothing at all to do with the work itself other than whoring out the license.
A bit like this piece of .... Terry Pratchett: The Spirit of Fantasy by Craig Cabell
:twisted:
 

Tonyblack

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Jul 25, 2008
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#33
They are still trying to sell that in The Works. It annoys the hell out of me because every time I walk past, my eye catches the picture and the "Terry Pratchett" and it looks as if Terry has written it. :rolleyes:
 

KingCarrot

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Nov 13, 2012
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#34
I have only got the discworld books (still a few more to get) and I was considering buying the map - think it would help me get "into" the story if I could picture the locations etc. Is it worth it?
 

Tonyblack

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#35
I've got the Maps - well apart from Death's Domain - and generally I like maps, but I don't think they really add to the enjoyment of the books. I'd suggest getting something like The New Discworld Companion as it is chock full of all sorts of information about the Discworld, the books and has maps in it as well. The one I've suggested here is a little out of date now. There is a new book called The Turtle Moves, which is an updated version of the companion, but I wouldn't be without my Companion, which gets a lot of use and therefore is a little dogeared. I'm not sure I'd want to treat a brand new hardcover like that. ;)
 

Jan Van Quirm

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Nov 7, 2008
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#37
Molokov said:
Selkie said:
I don't think he has sold out. Certainly, when you look at all the Harry Potter tat that's around, the Discworld stuff is exceptional.
Ooh, we need a Discworld theme park! With a real Shades where you can get mugged on every corner!
Actually... at the Aug Con when they talking about Narrativia and The Watch they mentioned that they would be building a permanent Ankh-Morpork set in the UK and visitor attractions were also kind of 'out there' :shifty: :p Maybe it's just a question of time :laugh:
 

=Tamar

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May 20, 2012
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KingCarrot said:
I have only got the discworld books (still a few more to get) and I was considering buying the map - think it would help me get "into" the story if I could picture the locations etc. Is it worth it?
The maps are fun, and there are little treats in the descriptions, but they are like random candies versus the full banquet of a novel. Yes, I have the maps and I'm hoping to get the new map someday. I'm not as much a completist as the Mad Collector but I do have a lot of stuff.
 

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