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Slantaholic

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WIP Death Bridge by Snowgum? How is that link relevant?

I've seen the Men of the Footplate. It explains some things better than the boiled breakfast on the shovel clips I watched previously. I'm up to 17 chapters of bl**dy Vetinari as a Stoker fanfiction on my hard drive, y'know. *tuts* All because I s**ding triggered over Raising Steam!
 
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I finished Raising Steam last night! What a cracker the last 70 pages were, couldnt stop reading, well done Sir Terry, if you read this!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Im going straight onto "Going postal" now, Whilst Moist is still fresh in my mind!!! Wish I'd read them in order tho!
 

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If you want Moist the goblin-helping, dwarf-killing bandit I'm afraid he's not in Making Money. In there, he's an Ankh-Morporkian banker with Adora and golems, doing all the usual things Moist von Lipwig gets up to. I couldn't recognise him in Raising Steam AT ALL.
 

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Slantaholic said:
If you want Moist the goblin-helping, dwarf-killing bandit I'm afraid he's not in Making Money. In there, he's an Ankh-Morporkian banker with Adora and golems, doing all the usual things Moist von Lipwig gets up to. I couldn't recognise him in Raising Steam AT ALL.
I agree. There was nothing about Moist in Raising Steam that bore any resemblance to his characters in the previous books. Then again, the Vimes and Vetinari of Snuff,, Raising Steam and, to a lesser extent, Unseen Academicals, all seem like they're been replaced with dopplegangers. Of course, most of these characters have evolved through the series (the Vetinari of the first couple books is a completely different person that the Patrician of the later books, and Vimes' evolution from a drunken sop to one of the most complex characters is one of the best things Pterry has done), but the direction they've taken is recent books is lamentable.
 
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Slantaholic said:
If you want Moist the goblin-helping, dwarf-killing bandit I'm afraid he's not in Making Money. In there, he's an Ankh-Morporkian banker with Adora and golems, doing all the usual things Moist von Lipwig gets up to. I couldn't recognise him in Raising Steam AT ALL.

That's what marriage does to ya!
 

=Tamar

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Moist had a rough life before he came to Ankh-Morpork that last time. (He'd been around before.) I don't know about the goblin-helping, but all the risk-taking and highly-physical activity seems like the old Moist von Lipwig to me.
 

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Me too! Moist loves to live on the edge. Using the golems as he did is not unlike the risks he took Going Postal. If anything Raising Steam has Moist returning to the sort of form he was in, in Going Postal.
 

=Tamar

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The 'rereading Discworld' promos at the Waterstones site aren't bad for the most part. Too bad the one who did The Light Fantastic doesn't seem to have read the book.
 

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Bouncy Castle said:
Suzanne Bridson, an editor at Terry Pratchett‘s publishers, shares a few Roundworld inspirations for his most recent Discworld novel, Raising Steam.

http://www.waterstones.com/blog/2014/10 ... ing-steam/
Thank you, Bouncy! :) I didn't know some of these things, although I've certainly heard of
Bradshaw's
and
Stephenson's Rocket,
among others. ;)

Mixa said:
These days I couldn’t be happier… The Spanish version of “Raising steam” (A Todo Vapor) will be out the 19th November 2015!!! Wahey!!! :dance: :dance: :dance:


Mx
Yay for you, Mixa! :dance: :)

Whenever I used to read a new Pterry book, I didn't always understand it all on the first reading. I used to think, "I don't understand this scene. What's wrong with it?" Now I think, "I don't understand this scene. What's wrong with me?" *G*

Then I read more into the scene, I consult other books for the right information, etc... and eventually (but not always) find the answer, and give myself a little pat on the back... :)

Has anyone else found that they've had this kind of experience?
 

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I know what you mean Rath. There was one joke from 'Guards! Guards!' (love in a canoe flavour coffee) that took me over ten years to understand and only then because a friend explained it to me. :doh: Nowadays, I rely on the insights from the book discussion threads which often give me even more of an understanding into a book or phrase's depth than I had previously considered. :laugh:
 

=Tamar

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Re: Raising Steam, cover

For all I am not happy with Paul Kidby's way of drawing faces nowadays, I must admit that he has continued what I consider to be the theme of having a hidden face in the cover picture as a whole, one that is relevant to the book. I looked at the Spanish cover of Raising Steam and saw a face that I am having some difficulty identifying. Is it a malevolent Dark Lady, or is it a scowling Genie from the bottle with a turban of steam and a black mask over its lower face? Those two little white kneeling angels (with "head light" heads, ouch) whose wings turn dark and sweep up to surround the huge face of the engine (or become the Lady's hair?) - are they kneeling to the two humanoid males, or are they kneeling to the engine? Their bodies are more or less defined by parts of the engine/bottle top/altar.
Dick Simnel's legs and right arm make two open-ended rectangular shapes; is he a living wrench? His iron shovel emphasizes the golden C in Pratchett's name, that is at the forehead of the entity's face; is that a crescent moon sneaked in? Is the handle of that shovel really a stirrup, to control the Iron Horse?
 

RathDarkblade

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*confused* I can't see any of those things, =Tamar. All I see is the train coming out of a tunnel; I'm not even sure if the human figure is Dick Simnel or possibly Moist von Lipwig. The latter may be justified, because
he ends up fighting on top of a moving train.

I can kind of see a humanoid figure on the right of the picture, but I'm not sure if that's a troll or simply the mountainside. Apart from that (and obviously the goblin), I can't see anything else...
 

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