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One Man Bucket

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Here's what I see happening. As Vimes is holidaying he hears of or witnesses one of the Unggue pots being stolen and decides to recover it or bring the culprits to justice. As usual someone gets murdered because it wouldn't be the Watch if nobody died
 

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One Man Bucket said:
Here's what I see happening. As Vimes is holidaying he hears of or witnesses one of the Unggue pots being stolen and decides to recover it or bring the culprits to justice. As usual someone gets murdered because it wouldn't be the Watch if nobody died
Plus, it states it in the blurb of the novel that there is at least one murder.
 
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One Man Bucket said:
Not really. It is just one book after all and I doubt Goblins are going to start featuring prominently in other books
Well, a turn towards sex&fart jokes in general, then.
 
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meerkat said:
Or Ankh-Morpork humour as it's known! :laugh:
It still feels a bit weird to suddenly have a quite huge amount of that stuff in often quite prominent roles... plain weird (the sex and icky stuff in MM, the quite long list of stuff in UA, now this)

EDIT: Before anyone gets it wrong:
I am not someone who likes her books clinically clean and political correct, neither am I saying that such jokes weren't there before, but before they were, well, more subtle...
Has the majority of readers really become that dull that they need everything to be told out straight and explained? Left alone have they become so dull that they don't count a book as funny, left alone entertaining, if there isn't anything about sex and sh*t in it?
 

One Man Bucket

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Give me some examples of these kind of jokes. I'd say the jokes about bondage and mud wrestling in Thud were somewhat unusual but that's probably just Salacia's personality. I'm rereading UA so I'll have to get back to you on that one as for MM it wasn't that bad IMO
 
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MM had the whole bit about sex-addicts and sex-toys, cosmo's finger, the sheep's head (IIRC here) the dentures
it's a bit much IMHO
 

One Man Bucket

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I guess I'm just very indifferent to it, I only barely noticed it until you brought it fully to my attention. In this sexed up age what Terrence is doing is incredibly tame heck it was probably pretty tame in ages gone by so I'd say give it a few more books and if you think it's too raunchy just give the books a miss because it's unlikely he'll go back to the old days.
 

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LilMaibe said:
MM had the whole bit about sex-addicts and sex-toys, cosmo's finger, the sheep's head (IIRC here) the dentures
it's a bit much IMHO
Um...I'll agree with you Meeps! :laugh:
I thought MM was poor and a lot of it wasn't funny, just cheap laughs from slapstick. I put that down to TP trying to break into the US market, so the humour was dumbed down and lost its subtlety.

That's also my theory about why there were chapters in it. :laugh:

But I think it was just a one-off and don't agree with UA being like that. :p
 
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PoohKarrot said:
That's also my theory about why there were chapters in it. :laugh:

But I think it was just a one-off and don't agree with UA being like that. :p
Apparently americans are unfamiliar to bookmarks...

As for UA, it's not that much of cheap humour, but IMHO it has different problems (weird shifts in characterisation (still waiting for an explanation over in the other thread, btw o_O ) points where suspension of disbelief fails (at least me, and I can take a lot) and, most sadly, some scenes that breech with the general 101 of writing (the rule of 'show don't tell' comes to mind, for example)

One Man Bucket said:
I guess I'm just very indifferent to it, I only barely noticed it until you brought it fully to my attention. In this sexed up age what Terrence is doing is incredibly tame heck it was probably pretty tame in ages gone by so I'd say give it a few more books and if you think it's too raunchy just give the books a miss because it's unlikely he'll go back to the old days.
So, you are basically saying a good other has to bow to the mainstream and write as any worse or better author would instead of staying subtle and trusting in the abilities of his readers, which had no problem with subtelity before, to get things without them being said right out?
 

One Man Bucket

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I don't quite know that I'm saying that. I reckon he simply wrote in that style because the subject matter and the characters allowed or even called for it. If this carries on into other books then he's actually changed his style and the only way it'll go back is sufficient complaint or voting with your wallet.
 
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One Man Bucket said:
I don't quite know that I'm saying that. I reckon he simply wrote in that style because the subject matter and the characters allowed or even called for it. If this carries on into other books then he's actually changed his style and the only way it'll go back is sufficient complaint or voting with your wallet.
Let's agree on the matter being a big case of YMMV, shall we?
 

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