Snuff
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I don't think Fred is that much older than Vimes. He didn't seem to be in Night Watch; if Vimes was around 18, Fred might have been around 25 or so.
Can't remember how many years passed between the Keel period of Night Watch and the 'present' period of the same book (was it 20 or 25?), but if this is true Vimes wouldn't have much older than 43 in the 'present' period of Night Watch. That would made Fred around 50 or so. Add another six years to the time of Snuff and Vimes is 49 and Fred could be 56. Hardly an old fogey, even if lifespans are shorter on the DW.
Can't remember how many years passed between the Keel period of Night Watch and the 'present' period of the same book (was it 20 or 25?), but if this is true Vimes wouldn't have much older than 43 in the 'present' period of Night Watch. That would made Fred around 50 or so. Add another six years to the time of Snuff and Vimes is 49 and Fred could be 56. Hardly an old fogey, even if lifespans are shorter on the DW.
And we are assuming that Fred was retiring in Feet of Clay due to old age. This is not necessarily so. After all he was planning to buy a farm and settle down to that. In Snuff there is an ex policeman who has retired and bought a pub. He doesn't seem particularly old.
Sharlene and I were talking about this the other day and she wondered if Fred wasn't retiring due to all the different species joining the Watch. Fred is one of nature's natural bigots I think.
Sharlene and I were talking about this the other day and she wondered if Fred wasn't retiring due to all the different species joining the Watch. Fred is one of nature's natural bigots I think.
AVAST, YE SPOILERS AHEAD! RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!
He wasn't a figment of Vimes' imagination in Thud. He was real. Vimes was having the same kind of "near'" experience in Thud as he did in TFE.
But he didn't appear in UA, either, did he? I suppose that's because no one entered a state where his assistance was required. Did he appear in the other Tiffany books? I can't remember. Given that there was only one actual event that occurred in 'real time' in Snuff, there was probably not much of an opportunity for him to appear, since that character was never fully developed enough to warrant his appearance.
One wonders whether Pterry's own situation and his growing awareness of his own mortality have made him uncomfortable using him, the same way he didn't feature the Bursar from UA because jokes about mental illness may no longer have seemed appropriate.
Tonyblack said:
HE'S BEEN MISSING BEFORE YOU KNOW.
He wasn't in Wee Free Men and he only appeared as a figment of Sam Vimes's imagination in Thud!
He wasn't in Wee Free Men and he only appeared as a figment of Sam Vimes's imagination in Thud!
But he didn't appear in UA, either, did he? I suppose that's because no one entered a state where his assistance was required. Did he appear in the other Tiffany books? I can't remember. Given that there was only one actual event that occurred in 'real time' in Snuff, there was probably not much of an opportunity for him to appear, since that character was never fully developed enough to warrant his appearance.
One wonders whether Pterry's own situation and his growing awareness of his own mortality have made him uncomfortable using him, the same way he didn't feature the Bursar from UA because jokes about mental illness may no longer have seemed appropriate.
