Snuff

[Tonyblack]

AVAST, YE SPOILERS AHEAD! RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!

HE'S BEEN MISSING BEFORE YOU KNOW.

He wasn't in Wee Free Men and he only appeared as a figment of Sam Vimes's imagination in Thud!

He wasn't a figment of Vimes' imagination in Thud. He was real. Vimes was having the same kind of "near'" experience in Thud as he did in TFE.

But he didn't appear in UA, either, did he? I suppose that's because no one entered a state where his assistance was required. Did he appear in the other Tiffany books? I can't remember. Given that there was only one actual event that occurred in 'real time' in Snuff, there was probably not much of an opportunity for him to appear, since that character was never fully developed enough to warrant his appearance.

One wonders whether Pterry's own situation and his growing awareness of his own mortality have made him uncomfortable using him, the same way he didn't feature the Bursar from UA because jokes about mental illness may no longer have seemed appropriate.

He, Death played a very major role in Hat Full of Sky and probably in Wintersmith too. I say probably because I'm not totally sure it was him rowing the boat to the Underworld.

 

[Addams]

What a boring book.

That's not at all a watch book, don't be fooled, once again it's only a Vimes book.

Boring.

Sad to see a great man like Pratchett falling that hard.

 

[Tonyblack]

What a boring book.

That's not at all a watch book, don't be fooled, once again it's only a Vimes book.

Boring.

Sad to see a great man like Pratchett falling that hard.

Your opinion Addams. Many people here liked it - I certainly did. You might think it's sad to see Terry "falling that hard" but I'm impressed that he's still turning out such top rate writing after all these books.

And who said it was a Watch book?

 

[Anonymous]

What a boring book.

That's not at all a watch book, don't be fooled, once again it's only a Vimes book.

Boring.

Sad to see a great man like Pratchett falling that hard.

Really number one on the best sellars list for 2nd week running says otherwise and while it isn't his best book, it is still better than anything anyone else could turn out.

 

[Anonymous]

Twilight sold well too.
And for our german reasons an addition:
'Feuchtgebiete' sold incredible well too, too

(Why yes, I just compared a Discworldnovel to Twilight. AGAIN)

 

[Anonymous]

Twilight sold well too.
And for our german reasons an addition:
'Feuchtgebiete' sold incredible well too, too

(Why yes, I just compared a Discworldnovel to Twilight. AGAIN)

Twilight...shudders, still hate that damn series but that is a argument for another day

 

[Anonymous]

Twilight sold well too.
And for our german reasons an addition:
'Feuchtgebiete' sold incredible well too, too

(Why yes, I just compared a Discworldnovel to Twilight. AGAIN)

Twilight...shudders, still hate that damn series but that is a argument for another day

Naw, actually isn't. I doubt you can find a single person on this board here that would say Twilight's anywhere near good, left alone equal with any of Mr Pratchett's books, no matter which they deem his worst work.

 

[Quatermass]

Twilight sold well too.
And for our german reasons an addition:
'Feuchtgebiete' sold incredible well too, too

(Why yes, I just compared a Discworldnovel to Twilight. AGAIN)

Twilight...shudders, still hate that damn series but that is a argument for another day

Naw, actually isn't. I doubt you can find a single person on this board here that would say Twilight's anywhere near good, left alone equal with any of Mr Pratchett's books, no matter which they deem his worst work.

Twilight wasn't abysmal as much as mediocre. I'd suggest that at the very least, it is the equal in entertainment value of Eric.

(Lit the blue touch paper, and now I'm runnin' like hell)

 

[Australis]

Twilight? Hell, I reckon the Tiffany books are much better than Harry Potter!

There! I said it, and stand by it!

 

[Tonyblack]

Twilight? Hell, I reckon the Tiffany books are much better than Harry Potter!

There! I said it, and stand by it!

I agree. The Potter books were good, but they didn't have the depth of the Tiffany books.

 

[Quatermass]

Twilight? Hell, I reckon the Tiffany books are much better than Harry Potter!

There! I said it, and stand by it!

I agree. The Potter books were good, but they didn't have the depth of the Tiffany books.

YMMV.

 

[meerkat]

They are totally different variations of magic books.

They stand together as excellent books. But Terry will have to go some to beat the Deathly Hallows books.

 

[Anonymous]

They are totally different variations of magic books.

They stand together as excellent books. But Terry will have to go some to beat the Deathly Hallows books.

He did Equal rites :twisted:

 

[meerkat]

Yes, maybe, but Equal Rites isn't Hermione and the Deathly Hallows , is it? Plus it ER isn't up to the same standard.

Like I said they are stand alone in thier own rights.

 

[mspanners]

Well I just got round to snuff and all I can say us yippy! Terry has got back to doing what he does best, write a cracking book full of action , adventure and intregue. One of my top 5 books in the series. Who else can get away with writeing about slavery and genocide within a comic adventure detective frame! Pure genious...

 

[BaldJean]

I was actually a bit disappointed by "Snuff". Yes, his Viimesness and Lady Sybyl are in top form, but I had hoped it would be a watch book, and though the watch appears in it it plays a minor role. I love the social interactions of the watch, and I was still having secret hopes of Angua and Salacia becoming a lesbian couple, although an odd one.. Their relationship in "Thud!" reminded me a lot of odd couples from Hollywood movies, like for example Humphrey Bogart and Katherine Hepburn in "African Queen" or Clint Eastwood and Shirley MacLane in "Two Mules for Sister Sara". Ah well!

 

[AgProv]

The gay discworld

hi BaldJean!

You may be interested in a few notes I scribbled on the topc of the gay subculture on the Discworld; you may be moved to add to or comment on them?

http://wiki.lspace.org/wiki/Book_Discussion:Snuff/Annotations

I was interested too in the thought that Terry might be throwing a small rock into Angua and Carrot's generally tranquil pool by introducing Sally, a woman who seems to be attracted to both of them... I have a shrewd idea that in contriving a scene where Angua and Sally are naked in a lot of mud and on the point of a fight might well be the author's wry comment on all the people who contrive such scenes, and take them further, in slash fic...[/quote]

 

[Dotsie]

Angua's not a lesbian, and Sally never showed any inclination as far as I could tell. So any hopes of a relationship between them seems pretty ridiculous. You might as well be hoping for the sparks to fly between Colon and Nobby

 

[BaldFriede]

Angua's not a lesbian, and Sally never showed any inclination as far as I could tell. So any hopes of a relationship between them seems pretty ridiculous. You might as well be hoping for the sparks to fly between Colon and Nobby

There were on the contrary a lot of indicators. The most basic one is the way the relationship between Angua and Sally is being portrayed. As Jean already pointed out, it is extremely reminiscent of the relationships between the male and the female lead in many Hollywood movies; she named "African Queen" and "Two Mules for Sister Sara" as examples. Maybe you have to be lesbian to feel it, but I notice a lot of sexual tension between Angua and Sally, and not because of them warring over Carrot.

 

[pip]

Angua's not a lesbian, and Sally never showed any inclination as far as I could tell. So any hopes of a relationship between them seems pretty ridiculous. You might as well be hoping for the sparks to fly between Colon and Nobby

There were on the contrary a lot of indicators. The most basic one is the way the relationship between Angua and Sally is being portrayed. As Jean already pointed out, it is extremely reminiscent of the relationships between the male and the female lead in many Hollywood movies; she named "African Queen" and "Two Mules for Sister Sara" as examples. Maybe you have to be lesbian to feel it, but I notice a lot of sexual tension between Angua and Sally, and not because of them warring over Carrot.

As Terry isn't a Lesbian i can't imagine he would be capable of putting in subtle signals only Lesbians can pick up on