SPOILERS The Last Continent Discussion **Spoilers**
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Another reference (possibly) that people may have missed:
After WW2 Australia opened its doors to emigrants from the UK and over a million of them went there between 1945 and 1972. The Australian government had an Assisted Passage scheme, where emigrants would pay just £10 to travel to Australia. This scheme became known by the Australians as 'Ten Pound Poms'.
After WW2 Australia opened its doors to emigrants from the UK and over a million of them went there between 1945 and 1972. The Australian government had an Assisted Passage scheme, where emigrants would pay just £10 to travel to Australia. This scheme became known by the Australians as 'Ten Pound Poms'.
Tonyblack said:
Does anyone else have trouble telling the Faculty apart? Ponder, the Bursar, Ridcully and the Librarian are fine, and the Dean is not too bad - but the Chair of Indefinite Studies, the Lecturer of Recent Runes and the Senior Wrangler are almost interchangeable. 
poohcarrot said:
But where was the evidence?
And how come SW's allowed to right in green?
That's nepotism!
Del, is the Trickster (Roo) a part of the aboriginal creation story as coyote is in many of the Native American creation accounts?
As to giving emphasis by WRITING in green (I have the right to if I want to--as Tony pointed out). It was your post that I used the green on, not mine. Would you have prefered shocking pink?
As to your question about where is the evidence of Pooh talking rubbish, see pages 1 through 9 for frequent examples.
I didn't have an obsession with gay sex until Tony raised the issue in UA.
SW You only think I was talking rubbish because you quite clearly didn't get the evolution debate bit.
The Ozzie half if funny, but (in my opinion) it's the evolution bits which elevate this novel above the likes of Night Watch and Monstrous Regiment.
Tonyblack talking about "Gay" jokes in UA said:
I couldn't believe the amount of double entendres in the book. Back passages and back alleys had more mentions than a Carry-On film.
The Ozzie half if funny, but (in my opinion) it's the evolution bits which elevate this novel above the likes of Night Watch and Monstrous Regiment.
As Pooh has failed to supply a link to the discussion he's quoting from on the Cunning Artificer's Board, I thought I'd supply one. LINK.
As you'll see from the link, the discussion took place in December 2007. In my own opening introduction I said that this book was my least favourite of all the books.
But over all those years my opinion has changed somewhat. I see things in there that I didn't see before and can see where Terry was going with this book now. I've changed my opinion. I know that swreader enjoyed the book more this time as well. People change their minds - I didn't like Small Gods much when I first read it.
As to me talking about "Gay" jokes in UA. Where, in that quote do I mention anything about "gay" anything?
The quote by me is from this thread: Unseen Academicals - Revelation! posted by Pooh in January 2010 about what "gay" references he saw in Unseen Academicals. I think most people who contributed to that thread agreed that there were gay references in the book.
Let me get this clear Pooh. Your comments about gay sex in The Last Continent are based on my comments in a thread about UA over a year ago - a discussion about homosexual references in a thread that you started? Huh - how does that work?
I apologise if I've corrupted you.
As you'll see from the link, the discussion took place in December 2007. In my own opening introduction I said that this book was my least favourite of all the books.
But over all those years my opinion has changed somewhat. I see things in there that I didn't see before and can see where Terry was going with this book now. I've changed my opinion. I know that swreader enjoyed the book more this time as well. People change their minds - I didn't like Small Gods much when I first read it.
As to me talking about "Gay" jokes in UA. Where, in that quote do I mention anything about "gay" anything?
The quote by me is from this thread: Unseen Academicals - Revelation! posted by Pooh in January 2010 about what "gay" references he saw in Unseen Academicals. I think most people who contributed to that thread agreed that there were gay references in the book.
poocarrot said:
I didn't have an obsession with gay sex until Tony raised the issue in UA.
I apologise if I've corrupted you.
Well we put a FEW in didn't we? I'm sure if they were ALL in it might make a difference... no free cars, free petrol, free meals, (how the hell can you institute policy on items you haven't paid for in years), free travel, free rent, free free free free free......
Mind you.... woudl YOU do that job? I mean the premise of it is okay... but frankly you would have to spend your whole day with.... POLITICIANS UGH.
Mind you.... woudl YOU do that job? I mean the premise of it is okay... but frankly you would have to spend your whole day with.... POLITICIANS
UGH.
Yes, I thought the whole point of that reference was to do with Aussie history and the imprisonment of corrupt politicians.
Here's a list of crooked Australian politicians.
And it really is safe to post here. We don't always agree, but that wouldn't be much of a discussion if we did.
Here's a list of crooked Australian politicians.
And it really is safe to post here. We don't always agree, but that wouldn't be much of a discussion if we did.
I thought the idea of these discussions was to actually have some independent, original thoughts and ideas about specific books and to back them up with quotes. Obviously I was wrong.
Any original ideas I have tend to be shot down in flames because I obviously "haven't read the book", or they just get unfairly dismissed out of hand because "It doesn't say so on L-Space".
What's the point?
When I first mentioned Buggerup could be a gay joke, this was immediately dismissed out of hand and equivalent to saying Foul Ole Ron was gay. I then provided 5 pieces of evidence;
1. According to Tony, UA has lots of gay references about "back passages" etc, thus setting a precedent.
2. Buggerup is a parody of Sydney, yet in keeping with the rest of the book, no pun is obvious. Clancy would have been a better name.
3. The Galeh is a parody of the Gay Pride festival.
4. Dibbler is overtly homophobic.
5. Someone says Buggerup is full of "Pooftahs".
Tony then said it might be true, and as far as I was concerned, that particular discussion was over.
Then Del sticks her big oar in and starts it up again, so I have to defend my position.
Then DJ puts a different version of Foul Ole Ron being gay comment.
Then SW says I'm obsessed with sex?
And SW says I have no knowledge of Australia. Which is pretty rich coming from somebody who completely failed to understand the book despite reading it at least twice.
I give up.
Any original ideas I have tend to be shot down in flames because I obviously "haven't read the book", or they just get unfairly dismissed out of hand because "It doesn't say so on L-Space".
What's the point?
When I first mentioned Buggerup could be a gay joke, this was immediately dismissed out of hand and equivalent to saying Foul Ole Ron was gay. I then provided 5 pieces of evidence;
1. According to Tony, UA has lots of gay references about "back passages" etc, thus setting a precedent.
2. Buggerup is a parody of Sydney, yet in keeping with the rest of the book, no pun is obvious. Clancy would have been a better name.
3. The Galeh is a parody of the Gay Pride festival.
4. Dibbler is overtly homophobic.
5. Someone says Buggerup is full of "Pooftahs".
Tony then said it might be true, and as far as I was concerned, that particular discussion was over.
Then Del sticks her big oar in and starts it up again, so I have to defend my position.
Then DJ puts a different version of Foul Ole Ron being gay comment.
Then SW says I'm obsessed with sex?
And SW says I have no knowledge of Australia.
Which is pretty rich coming from somebody who completely failed to understand the book despite reading it at least twice. I give up.
